Wednesday, December 24, 2008

Ahmadinejad on Channel 4

I am so pissed off, I am so livid at the incompetency and lunacy of this Western media, I want to get hold of one of these snobby condescending fartbag journalists, editors and media bosses and pulp them to the wall. Channel 4 has invited President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad not for a debate, not for an interview, but to give an "alternative" Christmas message!

Who will they invite next? Kim-il-Jong? Mugabe? This is rubbing salt on the wounds of all those jailed journalists in Iran, this is an insult to the family of murdered photo-journalist, Zahra Kazemi, this is giving platform to a regime which is persecuting Christian converts in Iran, to a regime which is persecuting religious minorities.

I am tired of all this complacency and deranged madness of the Western media. British people wake up before your media destroys all the privileges you take for granted.
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Sohrab said...

I saw that on BBC - what in God's name is wrong with the British media?


Winston said...

Europe as a whole and England in particular are lost causes. I'd get the hell out of that hellhole if I were you. Move either to Canada or to the US. it is much better on this side of the Atlantic ocean. UK is finished and I am not sad about it. They deserve it.

انگلستان و اروپا سالها به تقویت رژیم ایران پرداخته اند و اسلامیزه شدن این کشورها هم به نظر من حقشون هست. گور پدر اروپایی دزد و غارتگر. من که اصلا دلم برای این اشغالها نمیسوزه

Winston said...

btw, i just emailed them using the email address you gave me

Bahramerad said...

Potkin I am surprised at your reaction.
It seems that you have not really understood the deviousness of — and the cunning plots of the bulldog English after all these years of living among them!
The 'alternative' Christmas message is exactly what it is - If the 'real' good message of Xmas is given by Jesus Christ - then the Alternative would be given by the antichrist - The DEVIL'S ADVOCATE - The Devil incarnate.
How else would you demonise an asshole like Ahmaghi-Nejad more then by letting him speak his bullshit to a world-wide audience and give him enough ropes to hang himself and his Godfathers of evil?
Let him speak up - The whole world knows what he is about and this will only reinforce their negative opinion of him and those that he represents.
Let the Devil speak and let's have him be more demonised then he already is ... that's what I want.
If you remember - Tony Blair used a similar sort of underhand trick and tactic with G.W. Bush at a very critical time in 2003.
Tony Blair (The English) provided the excuse that Bush needed by giving him the fabricated MI5 report that said Saddam was buying yellow cake from Africa and was building WMD's.
The famous report that G.W.Bush quoted and read out in the USA's Senate which convinced the Senators and the American public that the US must attack Iraq to stop Saddam. and gave Bush the green light to attack Iraq.
This is the same devious underhand policy to change the general public's opinion and the doubters and to reinforce their negative opinions against the Mullahs.
The noose is getting tighter.
I like it...
I think Ahmadi-Najes is a fool to have accepted this and that he has truly been tricked into a big trap and — that he does not understand its implications and how it will go down in history as the beginning of the end for his last few miserable months in office.

Anonymous said...

Imagine if they had broadcast a message from Ayatollah Boroujerdi. A message of peace and freedom from a secular dissident Ayatollah who languishes in jail only because he says religion and politics should be kept apart. But no channel 4 never talks about Boroujerdi and instead gives unchallenged air time to the captor. Sick! SIck SIck SIck!

Anonymous said...

درود به همگی من تازه دارم از این وبلاگ سر در میارم...ولی همونطور که وینستون گفت اینا توی چاله خودکنده افتادن و تنها راه آزادی از ایران می گذرد...حالا دیگه باید چرتکه بندازن دیگه...چقدر نفت نخریم...چقدر ایران حق داره قوی بشه ...آیا ما باید اصلا حقی به ایران آزاد بدیم یا نه؟ برای همین هم یکی به نعل می زنن یکی به میخ و هنوز به یک توافق کلی نرسیدن.ما نباید احساساتی بشیم پتکین جان... فقط باید لای خطوط رو بخونیم...همونطور که انگلیس ها در جنگ با آلمان ها همه چیز را فقط از تکه های روزنامه های آلمانی خواندند...ما فعلا باید در کمین بشینیم ...تعطیلات خوبی داشته باشین
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Mehrtash said...

Phone line will resume on Saturday.

Regardless of C4's motives, one should not even entertain the thought of broadcasting this moron's message. It is a betrayal to the Brits, a betrayal to humanity, and a betrayal to all the victims who suffered death/torture/exile at the hands of what Ahmadinejad stands for!

I don't buy bahramerad's theory, because even then to broadcast it is in bad taste, as no one should have to listen to this prick.

C4 must pay for this heinous act of betrayal.

Anonymous said...

Zohreh, Im no fan of Bouroujerdi, he is pushed as the acceptable face of a cruel clerical dictatorship. Iranian students are no longer afraid of calling the Islamic Republic what it is to its face, I dont think you should be shy to do so either. Now that Ahmadinajes has blown all of Iran's Wealth Fund and with oil languishing at $35, I expet that you will soon see the armed thuggish faction of his dicatatorship coming to the fore. Like Burma Iran will be ruled by a Pasdar Junta and the very limited freedom of dissent and expression will be totally crushed. Bouojerid, Montazeri etc are complicit in this criminal regime they are part of the evil that befell Iran never forget that! If they want to dissent then let them throw off their turbans!

The Maverick said...

Thanks Azarmehr for this commentary. I think there's a tacit racism in the UK which says it's OK for people in other countries to suffer but not in this one.

Anonymous said...

Just finished watching. Great speech! You Iranians are so lucky. We need a great leader like Ahmadinejad here in the UK.

Anonymous said...

Next year they'll invite Josef Fritzl :-/

Anonymous said...

Mailed them!

Hi there,
I just read that Ahmadinejad is giving a speech, and since he's around, it would be nice if you could ask him what happend to those that raped and killed Zarah Kazemi in Evin prison; Why there are executions of kids in Iran; Why the leadership of the Bahais are imprisoned; Why women are still stoned in Iran.

I also need your help in another matter.
I have an iranian friend that I've disgussed with, and she claims that 'west' supports terrorists by being mouthpieces for various religious nutjobs that spend most of their time killing and persecuring their own people. Of course I rejected that claim, but I lack a good counter argument - hope you can advice can I explain that a leader of a country that have produced perhaps a million refugees and thousinds of death citizens are invited to speak?
Best regards

PS. If he cancel, you could invite Jozef Fritzl to speak instead. Of course he only imprisoned his family and raped them regulary fo 20 something years, so he is not really that interresting compoared to Ahmadinejad, but he's better than nothing.

Anonymous said...

Britain is an evil country!

Anonymous said...

Its really sad to watch the UK fall into the trap of the mollahs. England, in particular, has gone through an intellectual dichotomy: on the one hand they produced great minds like John Locke, whose philosophies fabricated the blueprint for western democratic values. On the other hand, they're bending over way too much for Islamists who intend to corrode those values.

That is Europe's problem. Either they are way too relaxed or way too paranoid.

However, I don't think the political sentiment is exactly homogeneous and fatal. For instance, the new wave of European secularism (such as that being promoted by biologist Richard Dawkins, author of 'God Delusion') is taking a defensive stance against Islamism and has distanced itself from the 'old secularism' (by that I mean left-influenced).

This is a good fresh intellectual medium, not trapped in the domains of the neocon's far right or the socialist's far left. Its exactly this kind of apolitical rational and enlightened thinking that we need to defeat the toxicity of religious fundamentalist ideology, let alone Islamism.

So definitely, I would say the old secular/left movement has splintered and hopefully we will see the effect of this philosophical divergence reflected in the battle against Islamism.

Azarmehr said...

Who made the comment:
'Just finished watching. Great speech! You Iranians are so lucky. We need a great leader like Ahmadinejad here in the UK.'

Don't feel so unlucky, if you love Ahmadi-nejad so much but feel unlucky that you live in the UK. You can easily convert to Shiite Islam, accept the state interpretation of the Shiite Islam to the letter, become an Iranian citizen and go and live there and then see how much of Ahmadinejad's lovely kind words match the reality.

But you won't will you? You love your freedoms here too much, you hypocrite bastard.

Anonymous said...

If you look at Luke Johnson's page, he introduces himself as an unrepentant capitalist. What does that mean? It means he is unrepentant about earning a buck no matter what the consequences? As long as his bank account balance goes up by a penny he will have no regret at what suffering he is causing.

For that reason, hosting AN's alternative message he would know would be controversial and attract lost of viewers and sell lots of advertising. It is up to the commercial companies now to boycott Channel 4 or for viewers to write to their MPs and demand Luke Johnson's resignation.

Anonymous said...

Luke Johnson Unrepentant Assh*le is more like it! You can give him a piece of your mind directly by emailing him here. Much better than just writing in the C4.

Go on email him and tell him what you think of C4 giving Xmas Day message over to the meymoon diktator!

Anonymous said...

I found it as a good thing that ahmadinejad accepted this offer. in a democracy even you enemy should be able to speak. His speech was not a threat but a good thing. he has the right to give this speech and im glad he did.

one has to be in opposition to the iranian regime but this opposition should not be like the opposition to the shah. That was silly.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous has a point: If you wanted to stop this you should have focused your efforts on Channel 4's advertisers, not Channel 4.

I mean, the Foreign Office issued an statement essentially against having Ahmadinejad's message broadcasted - Wouldn't that carry more weight than an e-mail or a phone call from Winston and co.?

Fortunately for UK citizens, the Foreign Office doesn't control the flow of information, unlike in the IRI. Otherwise, why would we need to fund all that other bullshit Persian media. If Barack Obama could get on Jam-e-Jam and talk to the Iranian people directly, why wouldn't he? But I digress...

You should have focused on the advertisers and threatened them with a boycott.

Nonetheless, the speech wasn't harmful at all, but it was the usual religious garbage. Yet, I guess Christmas is a religious holiday, so why not?

be salamat,

Anonymous said...

Azarmehr wrote:

"But you won't will you? You love your freedoms here too much, you hypocrite bastard"

President Ahmadinejad is possibily one of the only global leaders talking sense and he is also the first in line for an Iraq style invasion. It is obviously US, here in the West that are evil.

They have the death sentence in Iran. In the UK we provide murderers with 3 square meals a day and let them out 10 years later. Beats being on the dole for 10 years.

Not saying I know much about President Ahmadinejad but what I have seen I like.

Only thing that I think is unjust is his attutude toward gays. However, because I dont like gays (except cute lesbians) I think i can overlook that flaw.

I think President Ahmadinejad talks fundementals, whilst brown talks sh1t, I mean about fundementals. In fact President Mahmoud Ahmadinner brings back the meaning of the word fundementals.

Anonymous said...

somehow I think Steve is one of those fucking Iranian regime agents living in UK. His real name is something like Hossein Derakhshan. LoL. Hey Steve Bozo, go to where you belong.

Azarmehr said...


You sound like a typical Iranian who is suddenly more Catholic than the Pope and gets his arse wrong from his elbow.

This was not a debate or dialogue or interview, this was pure uncontested propaganda. And really IRI has enough propaganda platforms. Ahmadinejad could have just as easily used Press TV and did not need Channel 4.

Sohrab said...

"In fact President Mahmoud Ahmadinner brings back the meaning of the word fundementals."

Steve, would you happen to mean fundamentalist - in which case you'd be quite correct sir.

Anonymous said...

The message is simple, the West supports the Islamic Republic. Humanizing the good servants is the duty of a benevolent master. You are rightfully angry, seeing the monstrous oppressor glorified, when the daily injustice is overlooked. We should all be very angry, because it is our fault that our country has fallen to vultures, and at most in futility, we project that horrific death. It is very upsetting.

Winston said...

check my blog... lol. i dumped the regime flag during the anti-israeli protests

Anonymous said...

Channel4 is run by morons.
I don't believe it reported the backlash that is swelling against islamism, evidenced by a mosque being burned down in Lincoln and a mosque and muslims being attacked in Southend.
Channel4 gives space and time to Ahmadinejad's ravings, but censors peaceful dissent against dictators by Azarmehr and others.
'Channel 4 jihad' should be this media outlet's new name.

Anonymous said...

Winston, you are an utter fool. It is a shame what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians in Gaza. The recent events should be deplorable to any human being.

And what do they do after they kill 300 civilians and injure 600? They go on a propaganda campaign here in the U.S.

You should see Ztipi Livni (the Israeli FM and soon to be PM)on every news cast talking about the Israeli people's right to live in peace. It's almost comical. Does she really believe what she's saying?

Her and her Israeli counterparts are the real terrorists - and any level-headed person with common sense can understand this.

300 people. One night. Lets call it what it is - STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM.


Anonymous said...

چرا واسه فخرآور جووووووونت کامنت نمیزاری .. خوشم میاد هم تو خدت رو میگیری واسش هم اون.... ههههههههه

Azarmehr said...


Your concerns for loss of life is very touching. Of course any loss of innocent life is tragic.

10,000 people were killed by Hafiz Assad at Hama, did you do anything?

5,000 Kurds were gassed in Halabjeh by Saddam, did you anything?

More than 5000 Iranian political prisoners were murdered in two months, did you do anything?

Thousadns of Chechens, men, women and children were slaughtered by the Russians, did the veins in your neck swell?

Shall I go on with the list? Even the Fatah faction in Palestine condemned Hamas's ending of ceasefire. Hamas have enough friends to come out into the streets for them. You worry about the issues that relate to your people.

Anonymous said...

Hey Potkin, Andisheblog always been more Catholic than the Pope. He is dime a dozen. Hes been marketing his blog, thats all. He isnt much capable of thinkin for himself except when he is marketing his iranian regime. koorosh{shahidi} says a lot for him.

Anonymous said...


That is the dumbest, most ridiculous comment you have ever posted. Are you being serious?

Your list is hot garbage. I didn't even have the ability to speak at the time most of those things were going on. And what the fuck could I do anyways, even if I was of a proper age to do something? The only thing I could do is support the dignity of human life (and international law) through my opinions and writings.

As I would, and still do, for the Kurds, Chechens, and any other unjustly oppressed humans.

You are a fool of immense proportions to actually say something like, "you worry about the issues that relate to your people." I mean, really?

And Winston, he actually participated in a pro-Israeli rally - are Israelis his people? No, but that doesn't mean the human mind shouldn't grapple with problems outside of their nationality or race - this isn't the 16th century buddy. I hope you teach your children better than that.

Maybe you somehow misconstrue my outrage as support for the IRI - Don't.

Mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters are needlessly dying and it's only perpetuating the cycle of violence, as opposed to solving anything. A whole new generation of Hamas fighters (or whatever other group comes to replace Hamas) are being born right now.

This issue should concern anyone with a global cognizance - I thought you were one. But as far as I can see, you have an implicit antipathy towards Palestinians and an utter disregard for reason and justice.


Anonymous said...

"potkin". im glad youve realized that im a catholicsomething this "panjab" has not.

Azarmehr said...

Oh give over Barmakid,

While 300-400 people have lost their lives in Gaza, 543 people in Tehran have died because of the air pollution.
The Palestinian people in Gaza hate Hamas and their repressive measures too, its only the Islamic Republic and useful idiots in the West like yourself who admire Hamas.

Winston said...

barmakir, you're an utter asshole for your stupidity. STHU

Anonymous said...

Admire Hamas? What makes you think I admire Hamas? I have no admiration of Hamas, that's your warped interpretation of what I said - I think you need to "give over."

This has nothing to do with the admiration of any group or peoples, this is about human reasoning and justice. Why must you constantly adjust what I say and categorize me with one group or the other? It's quite telling of your temperament.

I'll leave this thread with a portion of Martin Luther Kings "Letter from a Birmingham Prison," with a couple changes to the city names.

"Just as the prophets of the eighth century B.C. left their villages and carried their "thus saith the Lord" far beyond the boundaries of their home towns, and just as the Apostle Paul left his village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to the far corners of the Greco-Roman world, so am I. compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid.

Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in [Texas] and not be concerned about what happens in [Israel]. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea....

We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."

May Justice and Reason Prevail,

Azarmehr said...


Once again such touching quotes, but totally irrelevant and totally insincere.

Where was your sense of justice when Hamas were lining up Fatah members and filling them with bullets?

You still defend Saddam Hussein for God's sake, so shut up with your Martin Luther King quotes!

Anonymous said...

Yes, I "defend" Saddam Hussein. You're an idiot man...And you have a special talent for completely distorting what people say.

Anonymous said...

{"We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."}

Barmakid, nice quote. do you think iranians been DEMANDING freedom? Has it been given to them by their oppressors? what should they do next?

Andisheblog, you are an idiot who gets his anti mola ideas from others who arent fooled by {balanced} garbage you vomit. have fun in Norway b4 your sent back to join hossein derakhshan in Iran. you may later have a {balanced} fart to fart with your man ahmadinejad. Tell him your Catholic {shahidi}.

Azarmehr said...

I am glad we are reaching a concensus that this is not our war and we should not get involved.
Now regarding taking a moral side in the dispute, well I think we should have a free whip on this.

But just some replies to Barmakid:
Re defending Saddam Hussein:

You did oppose the removal of Saddam Hussein did you not? Does that not mean that you wanted Saddam to remain in power. Yes sure of course you would have been CRITICAL of his excesses and would have left your comments on some blog somewhere. Big deal!