Sunday, April 13, 2008

Temporary Marriage Online

When religion and government become one as they have in the Islamic Republic of Iran, so many forbidden matters just simply change name. Interest rates for example, regarded as usury and forbidden in Islam became 'bank charges' and how can anyone think below is anything other than legalised prostitution?

Edict authorises online short-term marriages - AKI


I know who?! Haleh Afshar and Elaheh Rostami will present this as emancipation of women by an anti-Imperialist regime threatened by the US, amongst their "progressive" circles which they circuate around :)

16 comments:

barmakid said...

Why are you so concerned with bashing Islam? You have no idea what you are even writing about. These marriages are called muta'a marriages; they are primarily for older Iranians whose spouses have passed away. This has nothing to do with prostitution; and if someone is exploiting the law to somehow conduct "legal" prostitution, then they are taking advantage of a law the same way a corporate lawyer might take advantage of a tax loophole in a law. These laws are FAR from a cover up for prostitution - no matter what some bullshit article you found on the shah's son's website says.

Muta'a marriages are intended to help downtrodden widows or widowers regain their footing in life (and satisfy their sexual urges) within the confines if Islam. (That way, the Revolutionary Courts can't charge someone for having sex after their spouse has passed away). They actually help people - like my grandpa. I have directly witnessed how those laws help average people (aside from your ideological dogma), so get over your childish infatuation with degrading Islam.

Cheers,
barmakid

Azarmehr said...

Actually sigheh is nothing to do with Islam and is an invention of Shiite clergy only.

Of course you are too young to remember and probably havent talked to any Iran-Iraq war veterans to find out how the mullahs like leeches, would turn up outside a martyr's house, and force the martyr's wife into temporary marriage. It got so bad that those who went to defend the country would stipulate in their will that their wives should not become sigheh, yet you an American university graduate defend this shameful custom.

Shame on you!

Anonymous said...

Hey barmakid:

Your commies have tanked. Read it and weep. Lol.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mjg5NTExNTg4M2IwNTgyMzNiNzAzZGMwNzdiYjk5NTg=

Anonymous said...

Azermahr,

We all know you like visiting prostitutes (i also know you prefer the male type).

Why cannot the men in Iran enjoy the pleasures that the men in the West, like your self, take for granted?

Azarmehr said...

Derakhshan,

Whats your mum been telling you again? ;)

Bahramerad said...

Bar-man-kid - you ask a question — here is the answer.
We hate your kind of Islam - at least the version propagated by the Wahabies and the Khomainist - because it stink! to high heaven-
Why can't 'older Iranians' - I suppose ladies have the same right here too! — can't just remarry if they want to or just have a girl/boy friend?
Why do they need an Arabic name for it to make it what it really is?
Anyway - muta'a — sounds like MA_TAH_TEH - (something so beloved of the Arabs)!

Also - The Shah's son speak more elegantly and logically and with a lot more meanings that you or the likes of you can ever contemplate — so shut the fuck off about him-

And - why should widows be downtrodden? only monsters like you place them there by being disloyal to older women — our mothers — and not respecting the women's rights to exist and have a good, happy and secure life when their husbands dies — by creating false laws that says that the family's wealth inheritance left after a spouse dies has to be shared between all and sundry — and not passing all of the it straight onto the surviving spouse in the first instance and only after her or his death to the remaining children — just like all other the civilised societies do—
I suppose if your Grandpa had died first — you would have had no objection for you grandma to go and get a Ma_tah_teh Toyboy for a day or so!
You are really pissing us off —
Go peddle your disgusting opinions somewhere else and have a bit of respect for women — specially older one — you stupid fool!

barmakid said...

You know what's really funny? When you are called a fool by someone who is exponentially more foolish than yourself....*sigh*... I usually don't respond to your ignorant and ineloquent babbling, but I'll make an exception this time Bahram.

I want you to know, your time is up; I spit on your ilk and other older Iranians who contribute to our divisions in such a meaningless fashion. You are worth nothing more than the dirty salt that amasses on the peripheries of my scrota after swimming in the Gulf (of Mexico).

Who knows, maybe it's your 58 years of life that made you so bitter. Ya sha-yat maudar-o-pedar nadari. Either way, allow me to recommend that you and the Shah's son get a muta'a marriage; that way you can both be insignificant together. And plus, this way you'll actually be able to sodomize him instead of just dreaming about it.

Boro-gomsho,
barmakid

Anonymous said...

Iran: "Income Level Per Wife Table"

As Ahmadinejad’s government has set the only condition for re-marriage to affording it, based on the court’s decision, the Judiciary has just issued a table. Men should know that if the number of their wives does not comply with this table, they will have to divorce the excessive wives and pay a fine. Link via Kamangir


Monthly Income Number of wives

More than $5,000 : Four Permanent, Infinite temp.

Between $2,000 and $5,000 : Four Permanent, Two Hundred temp.

Between $1,000 and $2,000: Two Permanent, Fifty Temporary

Between $500 and $1,000: One Permanent, Five Temporary

Less than $500: Do it Yourself

http://kamangir.net/2007/08/09/dollar-per-wife-table/


On line Sigheh:

If you're looking for a Sharia-approved temporary wife/prostitute (Sigheh), click here.


The website announce it's grand opening launch and it's mission statement says: "To regulate and organize Society's sexual Needs". Vice President of Advertising: District of religious Seminary of Quom.

http://jostojoo.blogsky.com/

Serendip

Bahramerad said...

bar-man-kid
I am older and wiser then you shit ass cunt.
At least I have the courage to show everybody who I am — who the fuck are you - Just another unanimous cunt who has no respect for Women or your elders.
Fuck OFF.

Bahramerad said...

With respect to Azarmehr I have tempered my reply to this foul mouth KID.

bar-man-kid

You are right - I am older and wiser then you.

First of all at least I have the courage to show everybody who I am — who are you - Just another unanimous know it all wanting to show off and someone who has no respect for Women or your elders.

I am not the only one who is disgusted by your blabbering in these pages.

Go correct yourself and read and learn what others have said about you.

Next time keep to the subject of discussion.

If you do not want people to comment on your stupid pronouncements and opinions — specially what your family gets up to — then do not bring them into conversation.

Grow up and learn to control yourself when having a civilised conversations in a public forum.

Now be a good little boy and go wash your mouth.

barmakid said...

Jeez Luiz, who is this guy? I have a foul mouth...and I need to stick to the topic of discussion? Hmmm...I recommend you reread the posts in chronological order.

You have this inclination to always attack me (maybe cause the truth hurts, I don't know). But according to you, either I'm an Arab, or an Arab lover; either I hate women, or I rape them; either I support Mullahs or want to turn the whole world Islamic.

So in conclusion, Bahram jan, I advise you to put up the aragh-sagi and pick up some chai - maybe that will calm you down.

barmakid

Bahramerad said...

bar-man-kid
We still do not know who you are.

You are right - I have sussed out your opinions and political affiliations but — why are you still hiding behind your Pardeh - vial - CHADOR-

It will be interesting to know what kind of creature you really are.

barmakid said...

What are you talking about? I hide behind nothing. I have invited azarmehr to have a video conference with me, and I might invite you to do the same if you display some civility. But you probably don't have the courage to confront me that way anyways, like azarmehr.

barmakid

Azarmehr said...

I have better things to do with my time than have a conference with someone who thinks the Tudeh Party was one of Shah's Yes Parties or temporary marriage is an Islamic thing ;)

Barmakid said...

First of all, I never said that temporary marriage is inherently Islamic. It is, as you said, an invention of the Shiite clergy; just like the velayet-e faqih (which has much more of a negative impact on Iranians than muta'a marriages). The smarter and more rationally minded clerics (and not power-oriented) acknowledge this. Now I know in one of the first conversations we had you said you feel uncomfortable quoting clerics, but this is just for general knowledge of our society;

"The principle of Velyat-e Faghih (and sigheh)is neither intuitively obvious, nor rationally necessary. It is neither a requirement of religion nor a necessity for denomination (mazhab). It is neither a part of shiite genral priniples (osoul), nor a component of detailed observances (forou). IT IS BY MERE CONSENSUS OF SHIITE ULAMA, NOTHING MORE THAN A JURISPRUDENTIAL MINOR HYPOTHESIS." (Ayatollah Kadivar).

So really, sigheh marriages are a secular solution to religious shortcomings, but they are masqueraded around as a religious solutions so that the clerics don't seem as if they're straying from Islamic principles.

Thus, as Kadivar says, "It is high time that we let people know to what extent they can expect religion to solve their secular problems and to establish an advanced society."

peace,
barmakid

p.s. The tudeh party was not the 'Yes' party. The 'yes' and the 'yes sir' parties were created after the Shah violently disbanded the Tudeh party and others. And please, don't be an asshole - as if I don't have better things to do with my time than to talk with someone who thinks Reza Pahlavi isn't a joke.

Barmakid said...

First of all, I never said that temporary marriage is inherently Islamic. It is, as you said, an invention of the Shiite clergy; just like the velayet-e faqih (which has much more of a negative impact on Iranians than muta'a marriages). The smarter and more rationally minded clerics (and not power-oriented) acknowledge this. Now I know in one of the first conversations we had you said you feel uncomfortable quoting clerics, but this is just for general knowledge of our society;

"The principle of Velyat-e Faghih (and sigheh)is neither intuitively obvious, nor rationally necessary. It is neither a requirement of religion nor a necessity for denomination (mazhab). It is neither a part of shiite genral priniples (osoul), nor a component of detailed observances (forou). IT IS BY MERE CONSENSUS OF SHIITE ULAMA, NOTHING MORE THAN A JURISPRUDENTIAL MINOR HYPOTHESIS." (Ayatollah Kadivar).

So really, sigheh marriages are a secular solution to religious shortcomings, but they are masqueraded around as a religious solutions so that the clerics don't seem as if they're straying from Islamic principles.

Thus, as Kadivar says, "It is high time that we let people know to what extent they can expect religion to solve their secular problems and to establish an advanced society."

peace,
barmakid

p.s. The tudeh party was not the 'Yes' party. The 'yes' and the 'yes sir' parties were created after the Shah violently disbanded the Tudeh party and others. And please, don't be an asshole - as if I don't have better things to do with my time than to talk with someone who thinks Reza Pahlavi isn't a joke.