Friday, February 12, 2010

So How Many Turned up for Pro-Government Rally?

It wasn't 200 'journalists' who were hand picked and granted visas by Ahmadinejad's junta to report the 31St anniversary of the revolution, it was 200 scribes. There is a difference between a journalist and a scribe of course. A true journalist goes out of his way and gets the news regardless of whether the government likes it or not, a scribe on the other hand is the likes of Jim Muir, the former BBC correspondent in Iran who for years sat in his office and regurgitated the official news that he was given to report.

On 11th Feb, the images of the pro-government rally that were beamed to the outside world were provided by the Iranian state TV. In fact there were two film footages which kept repeating, both close shots and both with the sound muted, there were no aerial views shown. One still photoshoped image was also shown every now and then in between the two repeated film footages.

Thank God because of our courageous citizen journalists, we don't have to rely on these scribes however.

Here is one footage which shows the rest of the Azadi Sq. the side that the close up shots did not show. Is the crowd so huge that as we say in Persian, you couldn't drop a needle between them? Are the crowd determined revolutionaries who are listening to the speech of their leader with all their heart? Hardly so, judge for yourself:



Having shipped so many of the people from outside Tehran, it was even worse in the other cities, here is the pro-government rally in Tabriz:



and lets not forget why half of these people sell out and turn up for these government rallies:

39 comments:

Sohrab said...

Haha pathetic.

SZ said...

Potkin,

You just don't know how to admit defeat do you?

People were there by the hundreds of thousands and close to millions. They handed out milk, food and other goodies for people who were walking. What's wrong with that? Are you implying that people who came to the rallies were there just for food? That they don't support the government, but they come out to take the food? you're and idiot dude, let's get real here.

Also, you must be disappointed that your precious greens didn't show up for the rallies. The reason they didn't show up is because they were an artificial movement. They just wanted nothing but to party and drink alcohol. they wanted to be like the stupid kids in the west. Now that they have realized they are the minority, they crawled back into their holes.

Your cause is a non-cause. Its over!

Anonymous said...

The google showsa sparse crowd:


http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/02/view-in...

It shows a sparse Azadi square at 10:47 am local time. More details and analysis links were kindly provided by Shifteh Ansari in the thread

http://www.iranian.com/main/2010/feb/where-are-iri...

Given these pictures and square footage of the Squar, it is very hard to imagine that square having more than 100k people in it. After all this preparation for months. It is very telling.

However, Azadi street that feeds into Azadi square looked full of people, and it was barricaded off. In fact, this year, for the first time ever, there were two layers of barricades separating the crowds from AN. So it is not even clear what the makeup of the crowd behind the barricade was. Please visit the above thread, it has a very telling video of inside Azadi square, where people are observed not even paying attention to AN's speech, and even one IRI flag with the IR emblem cut out. In the heart of the "supporters".




Repost of Shifteh Ansari's links:

1. You can see parts of the Google image of Tehran at 10:47 a.m. on February 11, 2010 (22 Bahman) here:

http://arteshesabz.blogspot.com/2010/02/22_12.html

and here: http://friendfeed.com/vahid9/0e21cf75

2. Someone has videotaped the Google Earth image. It shows the
hundreds of buses which brought the so called "pro-government"
demonstrators to Azadi Square on 22 Bahman. You can watch it here:

http://culturallogic.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-pos...

3. You can see Google's image for yourself here:

http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/02/view-in...

4. This is Rah-e Sabz's crowd analysis of the image inside Azadi Square:

http://www.rahesabz.info/picstories/tehran_iran_02...

azadi square is 50,000 square meter (see azadi tower in wiki). that area is equal to 538,196 square feet. if each person fits into one square foot and if you subtract the area of the actual azadi tower and the area for the reporters and "khavas", then at most half million people can fit into the square. fair indicated that there is google pictures of the demonstrations. i haven't seen it myself (i searched). if he could tell us where to find the picture, then we can see if the crowd actually filled the square and if it spilled into the adjoining avenues that intersect the square.

Anonymous said...

This by far was the most militarized celebration of the failed revolution in its history. The entire city was under siege by IR terrorist storm troopers backed by Chinese anti civilian vehicles. They built a fortress around the thief president, didn't even come close to filling in that fortress, and had to resort to beating and attacking and arresting everybody outside that fortress.

Meanwhile look at the people who despite open government threats, shutdown of communications, world's most severe assault on the press, execution of people on arbitrary charges, they still came out and confronted this illegitimate government.

This government cannot even pretend to be legitimate anymore. The cat is out of the bag, and history is in the making. It is only a matter of time.

Anonymous said...

For the first time in 31 years, the government had to build a fortress and celebrate its own existence inside that fortress while beating people outside the walls.

The only thing in ruins is any semblance of support for the regime and any claim it has to legitimacy by any measure- even its own. Yesterday was a victory for the Iranian people.

Anonymous said...

Miserable failure, best describes the farce of iri's independence day. when the government resorts to a police state and buses people to their own private party where free food and presents are distributed, it clearly shows that the iri regime has royally failed.

Anonymous said...

IRI apologists are tickled pink knowing that after mass arrests, public threats on TV, executions, threatning texts, after putting hundreds of thousands of heavily armed thugs on the streets and after closing off the entire capital, its pathetic regime could finally put on a dog and pony show

Anonymous said...

According to Sazagara, the IRGC goons called up entire families a few days before the protest and threatned them with arrest and death not to participate in the protest....This is sick...

Anonymous said...

More pictures of the miserable turnout.

http://www.rahesabz.info/picstories/tehran_iran_02_11_10%281%29.jpg

Anonymous said...

Iranians' average income in 2001 was 40% lower than it was in 1976!!!!! What other countries' income has fallen 40% from 1976 to 2001??? If you can name me one such other country, I would very much like to hear it (and bear in mind, Shah's regime enjoyed high oil prices only from 1973-1978; Iran made more oil money in the 4 years of Ahmadinejad, the cutthroat Man of the People, than the 8 years under Khatami, phony Turbaned reformer. The murderers running Iran killed an exponentially greater number of Iranians in the years 1981-1982 alone than the Shah did in the years 1941-1979. You want to discuss red herrings? I'll remember that the next time Ahmadinejad predicts the fall of the US, the imminent collapse of Israel or boasts about Iran joining the ranks of elite countries.

Anonymous said...

Google shows hundreds of buses to transport the "supporters"
by Shifteh Ansari on Fri Feb 12, 2010 09:51 AM PST


1. You can see parts of the Google image of Tehran at 10:47 a.m. on February 11, 2010 (22 Bahman) here:

http://arteshesabz.blogspot.com/2010/02/22_12.html

and here: http://friendfeed.com/vahid9/0e21cf75

2. Someone has videotaped the Google Earth image. It shows the hundreds of buses which brought the so called "pro-government" demonstrators to Azadi Square on 22 Bahman. You can watch it here:

http://culturallogic.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_11.html

3. You can see Google's image for yourself here:

http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/02/view-in...

4. This is Rah-e Sabz's crowd analysis of the image inside Azadi Square:

http://www.rahesabz.info/picstories/tehran_iran_02...

Anonymous said...

Quisling SZ et al:

هنوز اعتقاد داری به این دولت تجاوزکار قاتل که خمینی رو حرفهای پوچ مردم فریبش بنا کرده؟ ویدئو اتوبوس هارو ندیدی ردیف شده بود برای "طرفداران" احمقی. ویدئو صفّ کشیدن رو برای غذا و بسته هدیه هارو ندیدی برای این مردم بدبخت بیچاره که به زور چپوندن تو میدون آزادی؟ داشتن تو سر همدیگه میزدن یه شیتیلی بگیرن. ویدئو هزاران نیروی انتظامی رو ندیدی که مردم بیرون قلعه آزادی رو محاصره کرده بودن. کتک میزدن. گاز اشک آور پرت میکردن. خدا بهت رحم کنه. راستی‌ فردا میای تظاهرات از ما عکس بگیری؟ میخوام پاسپورتم رو تمدید کنم. ؛)

Anonymous said...

They were determined to avoid a similar embarrassment on the biggest day on the Islamic Republic's calendar. The anniversary of the revolution should be a show of unity. It should send a message that Velayate Faghih is alive and thriving, despite efforts by the opposition and foreign media to show otherwise.

First, numerous officials and religious leaders called for blood. They demanded that protesters and political activists be treated as enemies of God and put to death. That would send a chilling message that the regime would not hesitate to kill its critics even for non-violent protest. And two weeks before 22 Bahman, Rahmanipour and Alizamani were executed and another dozen or so received the death sentence, and await final decision. Meanwhile more moderate newspapers were shut down, several more activists and potential trouble makers were arrested, and massive efforts were made to encourage hardcore religious followers to show their loyalty with their presence on 22 Bahman.

But the biggest preparation was on the security front. Thousands of riot police were deployed in a massive show of force (don't say martial law). This time they would not make the mistake of moving in small units, which made them vulnerable to attacks by rock-throwing protesters, but instead in intimidating groups of hundreds.,,more

Anonymous said...

Iranian Authorities Have Lost Touch with Reality12 , February ,

The Iranian government’s view of the state of human rights in the country is severely distorted, Amnesty International said today.

http://www.rhairan.net/en/?p=580

Amir said...

SZ - haha - tokhme sag e bichareh stop eating regime bullshit! Badbakht - look at the desperate measures your thieving regime took to partially fill Azadi. Look at what the basij thugs did to old man Karroubi. So frightend of an old man they had to paintball him, throw tear gas in his face and try and stab him. Haha fucking pussies. Your regime is weak and frightend. The outcome of 22 Bahman was to confirm the real MINORITY is the regime supporters. The green movement showed resilience and dignity - they are real patriotic Iranians. Not regime parasites like you. And what was that joke with the journalists?? That PR stunt completely backfired.

Hope your free sandiss went down a treat - bacheh gedah.

Anonymous said...

Must Read
By Mohammad Sahimi
PBS

(...)

short, this was not a victory, but a defeat for the hardliners. Eight months after the rigged presidential election of June 12, the Green Movement is alive and well. Indeed, the hardliners were sufficiently terrified of the Movement that they deployed anti-riot forces to surround the headquarters of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (there were even reports that he and his family had been spirited away to a secret location); the broadcast centers for national television and radio, the Voice and Visage of the Islamic Republic; and many other government institutions. Mousavi was forcefully prevented from participating in the demonstrations and his wife, Dr. Zahra Rahnavard, was assaulted, as were Mehdi Karroubi and former president Mohammad Khatami.

These
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/02/-opinion-many-had.html

Reza said...

Its obvious that anything reported by Potkin on this blog is sent to the evil media empire of Rupert Murdoch and British journalists like Martin Fletcher.

MILLIONS CAME OUT TO SUPPORT THE REVOLUTONIARY REGIME!

Its pathetic that Potkin, the traitor and British lackey, only shows video footage of the beginning and end of the celebrations.

Mowje sabz...koja bood?

Kaveh Binesh said...

@SZ

Your comment is even a new low for you. You are just far far out there aren't you?

Azarmehr said...

Reza who works for the Home Office but calls me a British lackey. The footage I have included in the post is right in middle of Ahamdienjad's speech. As I said on Radio 5, if the pro-government rally was so huge why were the reporters under restriction, why weren't any of them allowed to go to Sadeghieh Sq. where Karroubi said he was going? Why were they not allowed to move an inch from where they were?

How is things? You said you come down on 11th Feb, where were you? Are you getting a pay rise by the Home Office or are you servingthem free of charge?

Reza said...

Potkin,

I was advised by the police not to attend the rally outside the embassy because they could not guarantee my safety - I was already attacked by a green mob in Manchester outside the Islamic centre there in June.

However, I do intend to come down again for Charshanbeh soori when the green movement will once again hijack a national/cultural event for political purposes.

Btw, I informed the Press Complaints Commission that Mr Fletcher of the Murdoch Times was receiving most of his information from you - his "special correspondent".

Hope to hear you again soon on SEDA YE ENGELEES.

Amir said...

Potkin we have a saying for Reza

Hasood hargez nayasood!

SZ said...

Amir koskesh kesafat,

I am eating regime bullshit? You mean you are eating dissident bullshit! You actually believe the shit you post?

"look at the desperate measures your thieving regime took to partially fill Azadi."

What did they do? You actually think the pictures on this blog that show the aerial views of Azadi plaza are accurate? Were you there fuck face? No, you weren't there and you're talking out of your ass!

"Look at what the basij thugs did to old man Karroubi."

What did they do? I don't think you were supporting him when he was the speaker of Parliament. He came out to protest with the others who did NOT have permits for a protest, and he was attacked. So what? What's the big deal? What did you want the government to do, let him walk around and do whatever he wants? He lost the election fuck face, get over it!

"Your regime is weak and frightend. The outcome of 22 Bahman was to confirm the real MINORITY is the regime supporters."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....wait you really believe that? How many years have koskeshes like you claimed that this government is going to collapse because the people don't want them? He idiot, get a clue, the government of Iran has the support of the majority of the people. Where do you even get off claiming the shit you claim? Seriously dude your BS gets old and nobody even believes the shit you post!

"The green movement showed resilience and dignity - they are real patriotic Iranians. Not regime parasites like you."

blahblahblahblah....Keep posting your BS, keep saying you have a movement, keep claiming you have a revolution and support, that's what the Shah supporters have been saying in LA for 30 years...yep, they were right!!! At least next time you post BS, try to make it believable! fucking idiot cocksucker! hahahahah!!!

SZ said...

Anonymous,

you're a liar and a lackey. Unless you can back up your posts, don't be posting BS. People like Amir, Sohrab, Arash my believe you, but real Iranians who live in Iran don't believe that bullshit.

Even if there were buses with people from out of Tehran, do they make up 500,000 people? if each bus holds 75 people, and there were 200 buses (which is a super large amount), thats about 15000 people....so how do you account for the other half million?

Are you that studid where you don't realize the truth. you lost, your movement is kaput, and there is nothing you can do about it. Its over, crawl back into your hole and shut up.

Neda Mehregan said...

SZ
You are a laate bisavad, bi saro paa. From the way you talk it's clear you were brought up in amongst pigs.

First of all, a group of government supporters came out, no one attacked them. Everyone has a right to have a voice, if protesters came out against the government that does not give the government some god given right to attack them.

Your kind of victory is "We have the money, we have the power, every one has to obey us, otherwise we will shoot, rape and arrest,
Yes, some victory! or is it cowardice? Greed? Self interest?

Free and easy money from the Iranian people has made you and your daddy "haar". Moftkhori mazeh karde
But not for long. We will throw you occupiers and traitors out of our land. That's for sure, it's only a matter of time my mozdoor friend. Now go home and cry to daddy, there's a good basiji boy!

Amir said...

SZ bacheh gedah - the fact these people keep coming back over and over and over in the streets doesn't send a signal to your dumb brain?? Cheshmata vakon. Mardom khasteh shodan az in regime.

"You actually think the pictures on this blog that show the aerial views of Azadi plaza are accurate?"

Koondeh - this was supposed to be THE BIGGEST celebration of the nation but your officials could only broadcast Azadi?? Let's use the numbers things you love - out of 70 million population - the majority of which you claim supports this regime were represented by footage from one square in Tehran on the most important day of the national calender?? REally ?? Are you serious?? ONE FUCKING SQUARE?? You call that support?? Hahahah weak! And that was from the OFFICIAL (staged) images broadcast.

"What did they do? I don't think you were supporting him when he was the speaker of Parliament. He came out to protest with the others who did NOT have permits for a protest, and he was attacked."

What a fucking idiot - you ask a question and answer it in the next sentence. Yes he was attacked, along with his bodyguards and others that were walking with him. And you're correct I didn't support him when he was in Parliament, but at the moment he's one of a handful of people with some influence in Iran who is standing up for the Iranians unjustly arrested & who are being raped & tortured in prison. And while he continues to support reform and makes a fuss regarding the human rights abuses then he will have my support.

And you know, so what if people in exile have been saying the regime is going to go for 30 years. They had the right to say it freely without fear of execution - could people in Iran? Can they now? What is important and the reason why you keep commenting on this blog and the reason the terrorist Iranian cyber army attacks legitimate websites is because there is a huge movement of disillusioned Iranians inside Iran. They want change. They come to the streets. It's not a dissident thing, it's not a plot by the west, it's nothing to do with Israel - it's a homegrown thing. It has been nicknamed the green movement. It's not my movement but I support it. It's not a political party just a mass collective of similar voices that are saying this murderous regime has betrayed our nation and failed us. Just listen to what they chant! And keep your GDP figures for yourself - that changes nothing for those who struggle to eat on a daily basis or get jobs. It's evident the regime is in fear of this movement through its use of violence, threats and propoganda parasites like you.

And for the record you are the cocksucker along with your jendeh mother.

SZ said...

Amir, one more time kesafat. I will try and educate you. but before I get started, fuck your mother. That whore made a mistake when she bore an idiot like you. I feel sorry for her and you.

But now on to your idiotic "points"

"the fact these people keep coming back over and over and over in the streets doesn't send a signal to your dumb brain?? Cheshmata vakon. Mardom khasteh shodan az in regime."

you want me to open my eyes to what? The minority that want to make Iran like the other vassal states in the Middle East? no thanks. Ill stick to the person I voted for, and the government I support.


"Koondeh - this was supposed to be THE BIGGEST celebration of the nation but your officials could only broadcast Azadi?? Let's use the numbers things you love - out of 70 million population - the majority of which you claim supports this regime were represented by footage from one square in Tehran on the most important day of the national calender?? REally ?? Are you serious?? ONE FUCKING SQUARE?? You call that support?? Hahahah weak! And that was from the OFFICIAL (staged) images broadcast."

wait, so you expect teh whole nation to come out and celebrate in Azadi square? Is that what you're saying? How many "greens" showed up to protest that day? When people come out, they aren't coming out in enough force, when they don't come out, the regime has no support....make up your fucking mind. words are cheap, but last I checked, the person elected to be our president is still there, and the government is still operating normal. Fuck off! eat your heart out, let's see how long you keep spewing out your bs about regime change in Iran.


"he was attacked, along with his bodyguards and others that were walking with him."

So what? he was attacked, don't come out if you don't want to get beat down..while protesting WITHOUT A PERMIT! he broke the law! what the fuck don't you understand about that?


"And you're correct I didn't support him when he was in Parliament, but at the moment he's one of a handful of people with some influence in Iran who is standing up for the Iranians unjustly arrested & who are being raped & tortured in prison. And while he continues to support reform and makes a fuss regarding the human rights abuses then he will have my support."

Oh ok, good to know you're a traitor on all levels. When the guy is speaker of parliament, he is an evil mullah, when he starts to support your cause, he becomes your hero. hahaha..fucking loser! you're a fucking loser.

SZ said...

"And you know, so what if people in exile have been saying the regime is going to go for 30 years. They had the right to say it freely without fear of execution"

That's the whole point, they can say whatever bullshit they want, it doesn't make it true. Just like you can say whatever bullshit you want about iran, and it still won't make it true! kesafat!


"reason the terrorist Iranian cyber army attacks legitimate websites is because there is a huge movement of disillusioned Iranians inside Iran."

Right....that's one of your koon facts...smells like shit, looks like shit, so it must be shit! seriously, get a life and stop posting lies all over Potkin's blog.

"They want change. They come to the streets. It's not a dissident thing, it's not a plot by the west, it's nothing to do with Israel - it's a homegrown thing."

Who ever said they didn't want change? The only thing I have ever said is that they are NOT representative of the Iranian population, and that they are minorities. Who ever said it has anything to do with israel or the west? What the fuck are you talking about?


"And keep your GDP figures for yourself - that changes nothing for those who struggle to eat on a daily basis or get jobs."

Ok, so GDP and other economic indicators don't matter to you. great to know im arguing with an imbecile who bases his opinions on youtube clips and not facts! fuck off trick!

"It's evident the regime is in fear of this movement through its use of violence, threats and propoganda parasites like you."

yep, you can tell they are so scared! wow, I can see the government shaking in their boots...NOT, a bunch of hoodlums and young northern tehran kids don't scare the government! Fuck off dude, you're a loser and a jendeh.

fyi, cocksucker, i fucked your mother, and nutted in her eye and face, tell her ill give her the $5 next time in in Houston!

SZ said...

Neda jendeh,

I am willing to bet any amount that I have more education than you can even dream of. Shut up cunt, just because you can't argue facts, don't start throwing personal insults around. You're a little cunt in the west who thinks she knows Iran. Fuck off.

When protestors come out without permits for a protest, they are subject to arrest and detainment. Its like that EVERYWHERE! if you can get a permit for protesting, go ahead, get it, come out and nobody will bother you. But when you come out without a permit, you are subject to be arrested, its that simple. and the right of the government is not god given, you're right, its given by the very people who VOTED for that government. We can't let a bunch of thug kids disrupt our daily lives.

I have never condoned rape or any kind of abuse. I even said a while back, that the people who were accused of torturing prisoners should be punished according to Iranian Law.

"Free and easy money from the Iranian people has made you and your daddy "haar". Moftkhori mazeh karde"

Umm....I work for a corporation, I have nothing to do with getting money from my fellow Iranians. In fact, we build refineries and semi-submersible rigs for Iran. I spend half my time in the US or UK working for my company on the kashegan oil field project. You're obviously a dumb cunt, so please shut the fuck up.

"But not for long. We will throw you occupiers and traitors out of our land. That's for sure, it's only a matter of time my mozdoor friend. Now go home and cry to daddy, there's a good basiji boy!"

We? Who is WE? you're in the west and talk shit on the internet..what are you going to do jendeh? seriously, people like you are a dime a dozen...and for the last time, the people brought in this change from the stupid shah who sold Iran to others liek a cheap whore. Something I am sure you do very much in your spare time! hahaha

fuck off cunt!

Amir said...

WOW - SZ you really outdid yourself this time. You hand out the insults but can't take it! Stop foaming at the mouth like you sucked off a rabid dog you little kooni. Obviously the truth is getting to you judging by your response. Your words and insults are empty and meaningless because you are less than human to me. You're like a piece of shit that I can't scrape off my shoe - I want to ignore you but I feel compelled to bring out the ugliness in you so the world can see the truth of what the regime and representatives of it like you really are!

I gotta keep it brief because I've got lots of work to do but...

OMG - are you still spinning that line about North Tehran kids being responsible for the protests? hahahahah bacheh kooni - everyone has seen the people that protest - they come out in all ages, shapes and sizes and in many different cities too. OLD OLD OLD regime lies. The evidence is everywhere on the internet for people to see.

No of course I didn't expect the whole nation to come out in Azadi square - what a stupid comment from a stupid asshole. My point was that as it was a NATIONAL celebration of such importance that the regime would want to show off its support throughout the nation with various celebrations in other cities across Iran which would be indicative of support. Instead what the world got to see was a bunch of bored people bused into Tehran and confined to a square with four camera angle shots, two of which focused in on an area no bigger that 10 x 10 metres. What the world also got to see was protests against the regime in Tehran, Isfahan & Tabriz. I can't put a number on the green protestors obviously but at least they made their presence felt in cities across Iran and not just in one square. Also, what do you expect - of course their numbers were fewer than previous occasions. How many thousands have been arrested in the weeks leading up to 22 Bahman? Put the fear of death into people by executing innocents, attack them with paintball guns, batons, knives, teargas - what do you expect?? You're bound to get fewer people on the streets but still they came and still they made their presence felt.

You're so fucking stupid. Can you imagine an ordinary citizen in Iran asking for a permit to protest against the regime. What do you think will happen to him? You think they'll grant it and leave him alone. No, first thing they'll do is take him to prison and torture him then make up some fake bullshit charge like "he's an enemy of God" and then execute him. Are you fucking retarded - if things in Iran were so open and transparent and people weren't afraid of what would happen to them if they went down the official route then people would request permits but they are left with no choice. So don't make out your regime obides by the law you fucking asshole - your regime is no where near pure and perfect like you make it out to be. And I bet, although I don't know for sure that both Mousavi and Karroubi have applied for permits in the past and been refused. Why would the government deny them if they weren't fearful? They at least could apply for permits because of their high profiles but ordinary citizens can't.

As for Karroubi. I didn't call him my hero, what I said was that as long as he stands up for the human rights of Iranians (which your regime is abusing daily) and wants reform then he has my support. So exactly how does that makes me a traitor? Another stupid comment by you.

So the Iranian Cyber terrorist Army don't hack websites? They don't hack them to stop truth being reported? That's a lie is it? Ok dickhead I'm not even going to argue with you on that because everyone sees the truth for themselves. Only you don't because you're a dickhead.

Amir said...

In the past you have accused the green movement to have been set up by the west or it being a zionist conspiracy - that is what I'm talking about.

Like I said before you spouting GDP figures bear no relation to people's real wealth. You can ring out figures all day long but when factory workers and civil servants don't get paid that's important. When people haven't got jobs and can't feed their families that's important. I'm all for GDP figures in countries that can be trusted to put out correct statistics but I'm also a realist and I understand the sum of no jobs + hunger + corruption + waste of national income on supply of weaponry to terrorists = people wanting a different government. Which is what the majority of people want!

And as for your insults - I could retort with 'I fucked your mother' but I won't because its not true. Infact, I wouldn't go anywhere near your mother - her koss is as kapak zadeh as your brain.

SZ said...

Just got off the plane, and this kooni comes back with this shit...wow.

First off Amir, you're the one foaming at the mouth when it comes to Iran. You start screaming and yelling when you talk about iran as if you're a rabid bitch. Calm the fuck down jackass, all your so called efforts are being put to waste because nobody cares about what you think.

great post about the piece of shit on your shoe, that's what people like you are to Iranians living in Iran. Ha, fucking idiot thinks he is the savior, talking about exposing the truth, and shining the light on people in Iran who support the government we brought in. Fuck you! hahaha.

Hey jackass if you want to believe a couple of youtube clips and then claim that they are evidence that the government in iran is collapsing, then that's on you. you're like the other useful idiots who claim all communication is Iran is down, but then cite sources inside Iran they have spoken to! kooni, get a life, do whatever you do, and stay the fuck out of Iran.

Do you know how many people showed up last year for celebrations? or the year before? i didnt think so, people did come out this year, many of them did, i don't have to keep track of how many showed up as if that makes a difference to me and my country. you on the other hand have to make it seem like nobody came out, and that nobody supports the government, because your fake beliefs and lies are based on that idea. Hell, your "greens" didn't even show up. Oh wait, are you going to cite some youtube clips as evidence of a revolution? are you going to cite some "green" website as evidence of a collapse of the IRI? Please enlighten us jackass koskesh!

"Instead what the world got to see was a bunch of bored people bused into Tehran and confined to a square with four camera angle shots, two of which focused in on an area no bigger that 10 x 10 metres."

First off, if there were even 500 buses coming in from other cities, and let's say each bus hold 100 people...that would make about 50,000 people who were brought in from outside areas...so what happened to the other 450k people that were there. there were estimates of upwards of 500k people showing up for a rally and celebration...umm..where the fuck would the others come from? You see koonkesh, your theory about buses, is idiotic at best. What is the problem with providing transportation to people who want to take advantage of it. I don't see anything wrong with bringing in people who don't want to drive, or can't drive, or dont' want to spend the money on gas into a celebration. What the fuck is wrong with that kesafat? Also, please show us your source for the 10x10 meter frame shot you speak of.


"What the world also got to see was protests against the regime in Tehran, Isfahan & Tabriz. I can't put a number on the green protestors obviously but at least they made their presence felt in cities across Iran and not just in one square."

blah blah blah...show your sources idiot, go ahead and post some youtube clips, some tweets and facebook links to show you are right! hahahahahahah...God, you're one stupid fucking idiot!

"You're so fucking stupid. Can you imagine an ordinary citizen in Iran asking for a permit to protest against the regime."

Actually, yes, right after the election, Mousavi and karroubi received permits to protest as long as it was peaceful, many of them were, and they weren't bothered. it wasn't until people started burning shit up that the police took action. So there goes your whole point about permits.

And for the last time, stop pretending you know what goes on inside Iran you fucking kooni, go smell your fellow dissidents koon you fucking idiot. you sit there in the UK and talk shit about Iran..?? At least do your research before you talk koonkesh.

SZ said...

As far as Karroubi goes, either you are a supporter of him, or an opponent. You can't be an opponent when he is a parliament speaker, and a supporter when he becomes sour after losing an election. make up your fucking mind, have some conviction jackass, either support the man all the way, or denounce him all the way.


"So the Iranian Cyber terrorist Army don't hack websites?"

Wait, do you even read what you write? Iranian Cyber terrorist Army? What the fuck is that? Where are they based out of? whos is the hacker in chief? Seriously, either post links to back up your shit, or don't post them at all. you're a fucking idiot. If they did hack sites, show me ONE site that has been confirmed to have been hacked by this organization you claim exists. Seriously, get a fucking life you british lackey.

Anonymous said...

Saaaaandis akheh kheyli khoshmazzass akheh ;)

Azarmehr said...

SZ,

Do you live in some fucking cocoon? You seriously haven't heard of Iranian Cyber Army.

See rahesabz.net

SZ said...

Potkin,

Funny, you ask me if I have heard of something, then you post a link from some dissident site claiming that this cyber army exists.

Give me something more respectable please.

Amir said...

SZ hahaha koskesh - I don't foam at the mouth, I'm not an angry person, never have been and never will be. I'm calm and collected and guess what there are people that care what I post and one of them is YOU!

"Ha, fucking idiot thinks he is the savior, talking about exposing the truth, and shining the light on people in Iran who support the government we brought in."

When did I claim to be a saviour? Just because you support a regime that bastardises a religion, do you have to put a religious edge on everything? I'll say it again, and won't stop saying it until it gets through to your teeny brain I'm only supporting the homegrown movement in Iran. I'll defend and stand up for their rights against people like you.

"Hey jackass if you want to believe a couple of youtube clips and then claim that they are evidence that the government in iran is collapsing, then that's on you. you're like the other useful idiots who claim all communication is Iran is down, but then cite sources inside Iran they have spoken to!"

What the fuck are you talking about? Why do you try to take everything out if its context? On certain days of protests and the lead up to those days - certain forms of communication have been disabled or severly restricted. Once those restrictions have been eased then we are able to communicate with people in Iran. It's not a big secret - everyone knows the Iranian regime tries to censor whatever they can. Why are you getting all sweaty - calm down bitch - it's not my policy it's your regime's!

Amir said...

"Do you know how many people showed up last year for celebrations? or the year before? i didnt think so, people did come out this year, many of them did, i don't have to keep track of how many showed up as if that makes a difference to me and my country."

Same here - I don't care how many people turned up last year or the year before either simply because it wasn't important then! The public in Iran hadn't voiced their outrage and anger at the regime in such extensive protests leading up to 22 Bahman in those years. This year it was different - it mattered because we saw a huge number of Iranians protesting against the regime. It mattered even more for the regime because they went to such lengths to publicise to the world their support but it backfired on them. It mattered to the regime because they went to such extreme oppressive measures such as telephoning people at home and sending SMS messages to tell them not to dare protest. It mattered to the regime because it imprisoned thousands of opposition supporters and students. The numbers mattered and the regime failed to get the numbers it wanted because it does not have the support of the majority of Iran.

"you on the other hand have to make it seem like nobody came out, and that nobody supports the government,"

I didn't say nobody came out - I saw your regime managed to occupy Azadi with people - how many of them were genuinely there to show support is another story. Offer a bunch of rural people a trip to a big city with promise of free food and drinks and of course they'll come. I'm not being offensive to rural Iranians, if Manchester United offered me free transport, food and drinks to visit their stadium for the day - I'd jump at the opportunity. It doesn't mean I'm a manchester Utd fan - I'm just getting to see a landmark stadium for free (being esfooni might also have something to do with it ;-) ). I also know that your regime has support, again I'm not denying that - all I'm saying is their support is in the minority and the majority of Iranians want a change of system - I'm not making it up. People chant "marg bar asle velyateh faghi" openly in the streets!! Isn't that the clearest message yet? But just for those that want to see some of the regime's support let's take a look at a clip on everybody's favourite politically uncensored website YOUTUBE - let's see SZ's majority in action from December. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFU9Gqq43rU - LOL koskesha.

"Hell, your "greens" didn't even show up. Oh wait, are you going to cite some youtube clips as evidence of a revolution? are you going to cite some "green" website as evidence of a collapse of the IRI? Please enlighten us jackass koskesh!"

Hey SZ what's wrong with YouTube or some 'green' websites discussing events in Iran - don't blame us for using these facilities as another source of what's happening on the inside. It was your shitty regime that threw out the journalists. If you wanted the world to have coverage on news channels you should have allowed them to stay. Obviously the regime doesn't want the world to see the majority of Iran is against them!

Amir said...

"let's say each bus hold 100 people...that would make about 50,000 people who were brought in from outside areas...so what happened to the other 450k people that were there. there were estimates of upwards of 500k people showing up for a rally"

I thought you weren't counting and numbers didn't matter to you? Who said they were all brought in on the same day anyway? Who said they all came in by bus? What about rail? And Tehran is a big place with a population of more than 8 million people...out of 8 millon Azadi was the best the regime could show as support. Hahaha...koskesh boro gomsho. You're pathetic.

"Also, please show us your source for the 10x10 meter frame shot you speak of." - you dickhead I already told you my source was that it was shown on your own offical broadcasts!!

"Actually, yes, right after the election, Mousavi and karroubi received permits to protest as long as it was peaceful, many of them were, and they weren't bothered. it wasn't until people started burning shit up that the police took action. So there goes your whole point about permits."

The protests were peaceful until your shitty basiji started throwing teargas at the crowds - the crowds set fire to the bins to help counter the effects of the teargas. The basijis got spooked by huge numbers of opposition and resorted to violence. If your regime had more control of its goons then things would not have got out of hand. The protestors don't want violence, they don't want to hurt their fellow Iranians! The unfortunate thing is that the Islamic regime's response to any form of opposition is violence. They don't care about the citizens. They want to milk the country for all they can and live comfortable lives while everyone else wallows in the shit. That is why people are protesting you jakesh.

"As far as Karroubi goes, either you are a supporter of him, or an opponent. You can't be an opponent when he is a parliament speaker, and a supporter when he becomes sour after losing an election. make up your fucking mind, have some conviction jackass, either support the man all the way, or denounce him all the way."

Why should I have to denounce a man that is standing up to this brutal regime? What kind of desperate bullshit are you coming out with? For someone that claims they are very intelligent you really are exposing your stupidity. The guy is risking his life to stand up for people who are being tortured and unjustly arrested. He is standing up against the corruption of this regime. People can change - maybe it's guilt - maybe the light suddenly shines on them ...who knows - but like I said as long as he is there standing up against your shitty corrupt murdering regime then he will have my support.

"Wait, do you even read what you write? Iranian Cyber terrorist Army? What the fuck is that? Where are they based out of? whos is the hacker in chief?"

OMG - you're so retarded. Go and google it you fucking idiot.

Anonymous said...

Every undemocratic sadistic regime, incl Iran's relies on using torture, fear, thugarry, bribing and manipulating people into supporting them. The clerics have grown accustomed to and are really addicted to malpractice in the name of Eslam. I think it is high time fellow Iranians open their eyes, and disobey the fascist regime and support a democratic, secular liberal Iran and contemplate along that also the possibility of creating a parliamentary monarchy (similar to Sweden, where our Shah doesn't rule, elected parliament - govt does!). This would be the best solution for us, a country united under a progressive minded Shahanshah and democratic government, plus we need to re-educate Iranians so that they realize their salvation doesn't lie in Eslam or any religion, its within them.

Khoda Biamorz Shahanshah Aryamehr!