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Saturday, November 21, 2009
Islamic Republic Affiliated Centres
These photographs are taken from a well funded organisation affiliated to the Islamic Republic of Iran operating outside Iran. Which country do you think they operate freely in?
what organization, if i may ask?
Its funny, you dont mention the organization, or where it is. We are just supposed to take your word for it that its in the US.
And even if it was in the US, who cares? Do people not have the right to assemble anymore as long as its not violent. Is that what you are advocating here?
No difference between that lot and the KKK as far as I'm concerned. Shame on those in power that let the Islamic Republic scum get away with peddling their fascism.
I believe these are from the Alavi foundation.
Thanks for showing your ignorance..The KKK was a racist organization which was started to suppress the black vote in the south after the civil war.
Last I checked, Iran didn't have a racist policy against black people and allows everyone to vote no matter their sex or race.
I am also glad to know you are against free speech and expression. People should refrain from expressing their opinions and views because you don't agree with them....fascist much?
There are many limitations to free association in American law, including when such association contravenes state or federal law. Mafia members can't claim their conferences are protected by the right to free association.
The Islamic Republic government and its various apologists are all bigots and racists just like the KKK. They are bigoted toward women, homosexuals, non Shias, and so on. In fact, they have oppressed the Iranian people for 30 years, they are the most racist anti-Iranians in the whole world and no different to the KKK.
You need to tone it down. Otherwise you are no better than the labels you use for other. I am sure, If you are in the States you can attend their gatherings and let them know what you think, Or maybe you can demonstrate outside, or find out who attends and boycott their businesses or whatever.
Those people, however crooked or ignorant they are make up a large portion of Iranians. You cannot simply eliminate them.
Sohrab ey ahmag,
"There are many limitations to free association in American law, including when such association contravenes state or federal law. Mafia members can't claim their conferences are protected by the right to free association."
DUH, but this meeting or organization is not part of a criminal enterprise. They are muslims who happen to be Iranian, who happen to support the Iranian government and their country!
You compare mafia members who are associated with drugs, prostitution, and are organized crime to Iran, who you claim to love! .....hahahahahahahaha
fucking asswipe madargaveh..
Arash Fag Bag,
"The Islamic Republic government and its various apologists are all bigots and racists just like the KKK. They are bigoted toward women, homosexuals, non Shias, and so on. In fact, they have oppressed the Iranian people for 30 years, they are the most racist anti-Iranians in the whole world and no different to the KKK."
hmm...I could have sworn Iran never had slavery of african americans, and I could have sworn Iran never had segregation of minorities in Iran. People can be bigoted all they want, when its not codified in a country's legal system, then the country as a whole is said to be non racist. It's like saying white americans are bigoted toward President Obama...great, but the USA is no longer a legally racist country.
The fact that you think Iranians are oppressed shows exactly how much you don't know about Iran. You don't know because you have never set foot in Iran, you have never lived in Iran and you have never experienced Iran. what you know is what Potkin feeds you and what you watch on the BBC....in a country, who for 500 years, oppressed other countries and enslaved their people for profit.
You're an idiot, and everyone here knows it.
great post, people like Arash, sit on their high horse and talk shit about everyone and everything they don't agree with. Its sad really, but they live in ignorance....I guess ignorance really is bliss...
Are you sure you don't live on another planet??How can you not think your beloved Islamic Republic is not a religious apartheid? Do the religious minorities not have to mark their businesses for devout Muslims to know they are trading with unclean Kaffirs? Can a Zoroastrian stand as a candidate for presidency or be any other high ranking civil servant? Have we ever had a non SHiite Muslim in any of the post 1979 cabinets?? Have you not heard Hamshahri was closed because a tour operator mistakenly advertised its travel services with a picture of teh Bahaii temple in New Delhi?
How much of a moron can you be?
And let me ask you what would happen if a religious group in Iran affiliated to the USA were engaged in cultural and religious activities and set up lectures on the illustrious life of George Bush?
Try not to show yourself as too much of a moron
I don't live in the US. However, I live in the UK and am a student, unfortunately our universities are packed to the rafters with these apologists, from the moderates like Ali Ansari to the vilest of the vile like Abbas Edalat, rest assured I try and act against them whenever I can.
Also, whoever said they ought to be "eliminated"? But could you imagine a group of South African white supremacists being allowed a gathering to lionise the founders of Apartheid? There would be an outcry. Why should the Islamic Republic and Khomeini be any different?
Please show me where I told you I "have never been to Iran"...I generally make a point of not discussing my personal life with Islamic Republic apologists.
But you didn't disagree with anything I said, namely that "They [i.e. the State] are bigoted toward women, homosexuals, non Shias"...which must mean that either you can't disprove it, or deep down you agree with me. Thanks!
You must be stupid, or ignorant, or both. From now on I am going to call you Peter, since you like to misstate my name.
On your point, or rather non-point, I have nothing to say but this. It is categorically FALSE that minorities in Iran have to mark their businesses or let anyone know they are a minority! You are a LIAR! show me one valid article, or one valid example where people have had to mark themselves or their business or their place of work because they were a minority.
Your statement about Zoroastrian really shows your ignorance! how can you claim to be an Iranian and not know that Zoroastrians and Christians and Jews are officially protected by the constitution of Iran and have seats reserved in parliament!!! There is a zoroastrian member of Parliament in Iran and has been there since the revolution! overall there is only 22,000 Zoroastrians in Iran today, and they have representation and they don't have to mark their business you fucking idiot!
Like I said, Iranians like me travel to the US all the time and back, and there is no danger and nothing to be scared of. You are an idiot who likes to spread lies about Iran. Its become incredibly obvious.
The fact is that minorities in Iran have a regular and normal existence, and for you to deny that is because you want to spread lies about Iran and its government!
Try not to show yourself as too much of a moron
You continue to amaze me with your total ignorance and stupidity! hahaha..WOW..
We don't have to know you haven't been to iran, your words and opinions and falsehoods about Iran show your total ignorance. You are a fucking 20 something student in the UK who thinks he knows the world. You let people like these idiot dissidents and probably your parents influence your thoughts about Iran when in reality, you don't know Iran.
Your statements about Iran and Iranians are TOTALLY and categorically FALSE. From now on, everyone here will assume that your words are total LIES until you can prove them with some sort of evidence. The burden of proof is on the accuser. If you say that Iranians are bigoted toward non shias, then prove it. If you say Iranians are bigoted toward anything and anyone, then prove it. Don't be a idiot like Winston, or Sohrab and just perpetuate lies. You're all a useless lot.
see how SZ has written ghahbeh :))) and he claims he lives in Iran :)))))
Since when is there a dictionary on Farsi spelling in English!??
You stupid fuck! hahahaha...instead of responding to SZ's post regarding your idiotic comments on religious oppression in Iran... you resort to making fun of his english farsi spelling...hahaha..stupid fuck.
There is some allowance for different spellings with the use of vowels but spelling ghahbeh as gaveh shows you are not quite a native of Iran as you make out.
SZ has been commenting here non-stop since June and my blog is filtered in Iran. So when exactly does he go to Iran? Is he a virtual citizen of Iran or something?
Read this for one example of shop signs http://wwww.forward.com/articles/5097/
and tell me why an Iranian religious minority, forget the Bahaiis for now, lets just concentrate on the ones who should be so grateful that they are allowed to have one MP, can not be a president, a minister, an army officer, a governor etc. Are they not Iranian? Why does someone's religion make him or her suitable to be a president etc.?
your blog is not filtered in Iran. I can access it anytime I want from either the US or from Iran. I was actually accessing it last week from Tehran, in my own damn living room.
Second of all, you originally said that minorities in Iran could not run for office, or could not hold public office, that was obviously a lie, so now you resort to saying they can't run for president, that is also a lie.
Show me one place in Iranian law where it says that Iranian born persons who are not part of the Islamic faith cannot run for office.
You continuously perpetuate lies about Iran to suit your own personal goals. LIke I have said many times before, the burden of proof is on YOU, not on Iran.
SZ-ye bisavaade zede-Irani,
Well their little gatherings are innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law -- in this case the Federal District Court for the Southern District of New York. That said, federal prosecutors have ridiculous conviction rates. That's why a significant percentage of those facing federal criminal charges plead rather than face them in court. Which means the US attorneys who brought charges against this particular "foundation" had good reason to suspect it was up to something illegal.
You are obviously a complete idiot who has been away from Iran for too long and dont know enough about what Islamic Republic is about. Just this once I will answer you but don't waste my time again. Get someone who reads Persian to translate and verify this for you. Its form the Islamic Republic constitution:
The president must be from amongst religious and political male personalities and have the following conditions:
- Be of Iranian parentage
- Be an Iranian subject
- Be able to manage and have a reputable track record of faith and piety and believe in the lawsa of teh Islamic Republic and the official religion of teh Islamic Republic.
The official religion of the Islamic Republic is Ja'afari Shiite of 12 Imam sect.
Hence no Zoroastrian or Christian etc. can ever hold this office. If you know of a non-Shiite Muslim who has ever held a political or military office since 1979 let us know.
اصل یکصد و پانزدهم ـ رئیس جمهور باید از میان رجال مذهبی وسیاسی که واجد شرایط زیر باشند انتخاب گردد:
ایرانیالاصل، تابع ایران، مدیر و مدبر، دارای حسن سابقه و امانت وتقوا، مؤمن و معتقد به مبانی جمهوری اسلامی ایران و مذهبرسمی کشور.
Using the royal "we", are you?
As far as I can see, no one except you needs to start going off topic with nonsense relating to my personal life, much less made up nonsense. Grow up, I didn't say Iranians are bigoted, I said the Islamic Republic, i.e. a government unrepresentative of Iranians is bigoted.
Also: What the hell is a "madargaveh", learn to spell please!
Did you just read what you said? By public office, do you mean president...or any public office?
There are members of the Parliament who are Zoroastrian, Christian and Jewish! You are a typical dissident who is two faced, you just don't know what to say, so you find anything to criticize Iran on.
"Hence no Zoroastrian or Christian etc. can ever hold this office. If you know of a non-Shiite Muslim who has ever held a political or military office since 1979 let us know."
Hahahaha...gets me everytime..
Sohrab, you are the anti Iranian. You're the one living abroad cursing Iranians who live in Iran! haha fucking idiot.
"Well their little gatherings are innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law -- in this case the Federal District Court for the Southern District of New York. That said, federal prosecutors have ridiculous conviction rates. That's why a significant percentage of those facing federal criminal charges plead rather than face them in court. Which means the US attorneys who brought charges against this particular "foundation" had good reason to suspect it was up to something illegal."
That paragraph says it all. You're a dumb ass. The group has broken no law. The United States persecutes them because they can, and because they are Iran's enemy. Those people are just pawns being played in this game. They haven't done anything wrong but to be Iranian and to assemble.
You're truly an idiot, I don't know what kind of student you are, but I feel sorry for whoever is paying your tuition.
"Grow up, I didn't say Iranians are bigoted, I said the Islamic Republic, i.e. a government unrepresentative of Iranians is bigoted."
You said the Iranian government, and nation is bigoted. Last I checked, the Iranian government was brought in by the people in 1979 and has been elected by the people since that time. So for you to say that the Iranian government is bigoted, is indirectly claiming that Iranians are bigoted.
Second of all, the government is representative of the people you fucking idiot. How stupid can you be to keep on repeating the same bullshit and not have anything to back it up? Do you even open your mind to reasoning and the real world, or do you keep repeating the same bullshit to your fellow dissidents and keep getting reinforced by them?
Seriously, you're pathetic.
oh wow.... give us more details about this suspicious organization.
Fantastic, they have 1 MP each great! All discrimination problems solved. Never mind that even the rest of the Shiite population cant send their true representatives. Never mind that the non shiites can't be in key positions. They have 1 MP blah blah blah, how pathetic you are SZ
first you say they don't have any representation, now you say that one is not enough...considering that there are only about 20,000 Zoroastrians in Iran, I would say one member of parliament is a fair representation.
And now you claim that the regular people in Iran don't have real representation at all. Its funny because you keep on changing your arguments left and right. Either make up your mind of just don't argue with me, your level of ignorance reaches new highs every time you post.
Shervin Zeinalizadeh the arsehole,
When did I say the religious minorities don't have ONE representation? ghAyeedi khodeto bA in ONE representation, keh chi?
Oddly enough I pay my own tuition, that's what we grown ups tend to do. You'll understand in a few years ;)
Please please please tell me who elected Khamenei and the Guardian Council and all those other UNELECTED bodies in Iran :)
You see, jackass, the US values something called the rule of law, something your filthy regime won't afford the Iranian people. The Alavi Foundation will have a right to confront and cross-examine witnesses who testify against it, the right to a jury trial, the right to know what evidence the government intends to bring against it, etc. etc. -- so the process isn't even close to the kind of Mullah-driven kangaroo courts you masturbate about. No persecution here.
"Oddly enough I pay my own tuition, that's what we grown ups tend to do. You'll understand in a few years ;)"
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA..considering I have graduated from University and Graduate School and had my company pay for my tuition in full, you sound like an idiot. and why do you continuously wink at me? Are you trying to come on to me or something?
"Please please please tell me who elected Khamenei and the Guardian Council and all those other UNELECTED bodies in Iran :)"
why don't you please please tell me who elected your queen, and her husband, who elected all the dukes and duchesses, and who elected our royal family. Then we can talk. until then, STFU. Iran's system is called a THEOCRACY, if you don't know what that means, look it up.
Sohrab ey ghar,
"You see, jackass, the US values something called the rule of law, something your filthy regime won't afford the Iranian people."
Yep, all the Iraqis voted for the US to invade them unilaterally, the Afghans voted as well. They love the US in their homeland as occupiers and invaders. Oh and all those guys in guantanemo, they didn't have any rights to speak of right? oh that's because they don't matter, they aren't people. The US values rule of law, but they ignore international law and invade other countries and do whatever they want. Riiiight.....fuck off.
"The Alavi Foundation will have a right to confront and cross-examine witnesses who testify against it, the right to a jury trial, the right to know what evidence the government intends to bring against it, etc. etc."
Riiighht, just like the terror trials starting in NY soon will have a chance to bring forward witnesses and testify against the US....riight, they will get a super fair trial 500 feet away from ground zero. I am sure the jury is not going to be biased in that courtroom. I believe you when you say that US law is superior and that US law when applied is the most fair law in the world. Yep, there is absolutely no doubt about that. Sarcasm off! Fucking idiot.
"so the process isn't even close to the kind of Mullah-driven kangaroo courts you masturbate about. No persecution here."
Kangaroo court...how appropriate....when applied to the US and UK...and also, who said anything about masturbation, what is it with you and Arash winking and talking about masturbation...there must be something going on...besides, we all know your girlfriend Rosie Palms is very easy.
Yeh, just like you said, there is no persecution in the United States, your laws and actions are as fair as can be. I am sure all the dead Iraqi civilians, and dead Afghan civilians agree with your adherence to world laws! hahahahahahaha..get out of here kid, go sleep with Rosie Palms.
No, I am not coming on to you, I know you'd like me to and hey a girl can dream, but I don't go for Islamists. Also, did you graduate from the same university as Ali Kordan? :)
I am not a monarchist, so I agree that the monarchy do not deserve their wealth. But you forget one very important thing, they don't actually govern Britain...they're ceremonial. Khamenei and the Guardian Council DO govern Iran and what's more they are unelected. There's a world of difference between the two.
SZ-ye khar (or should I write "ghar" like you do, you illiterate fool),
You pulled a bait and switch on me. We were talking about the case against Alavi. I explained that the case brought against them is in federal district court, and that they will be afforded all of the rights and obligations that the US legal system confers on parties in court.
Unable to retort, you went straight for the anti-American rhetoric.
To ya sho'aar midi yaa fosh midi, bahse manteqi nemikoni. Manam vaqt nadaram ke javaabe sho'aar bedam. Agar mikhahi bahs koni biyaa vayla vaqtamo talaf nakon kunkesh.
Who the hell is Ali Kordan? Who are all these people you speak of?
Its funny you say the monarchy doesn't govern Britain...umm they were absolute for 500+ years, and since then they have wielded considerable power and influence.
Iran has had an islamic republic for 30 years and you're bitching and moaning.
Grow up, this is the real world, you want to live in your imaginary universe, go ahead. I prefer to live in my own country.
bebinid shervin cheghadr khare keh khar ro mineviseh ghar :)))
Man bahash ghar kardam. :)
"SZ-ye khar (or should I write "ghar" like you do, you illiterate fool),"
Again you fucking idiot, there is no Farsi spelling rules in english! Are you that fucking dumb you neocon?
Second of all, I didn't pull a bait and switch, you claimed that the United States has laws and follows those laws and that they afford everyone a chance to defend themselves, and I simply gave you numerous examples as to why that statement was false. You want to believe in the hypocritical US legal system, fine go ahead, but don't expect me to.
To balad nisti bahse beconi ba man. To ya ahmag hasti, ya kunkesh hasti, boro gomsho.
its funny potkind didn't publish my posts responding to Mr. fake law student Sohrab, and to mr. fake student Arash....but oh well...he is the supreme blogger, and dear leader of the Iranian dissidents in London! hahaha.
You know I publish all comments unless they are spam advertising or families of people are insulted. Apologies for the delay in publishing your comments but for reasons unknown to me some of your comments end up in my spam folder and I don't notice them. I publish them now.
You're so predictable SZ. And you're not Iranian. Not only did you misspell "khar" (Iranians have established a widely used set of English equivalents for Farsi sounds), but your Farsi grammar is weird and the only insults you could come up with are ones that I have previously thrown at you -- no new ones!
Apology accepted. Thank you for your honesty on that particular issue.
You're an idiot. You claim you know I am not Iranian, yet I can speak farsi, you claim I am not Iranian, yet I work and live in Iran about half the year, most times more than half.
Simply, its easy to be an internet tough guy and claim that I am not Iranian. Considering my first name is Sasan. You're a fucking idiot. Whether you believe me or not, it doesn't change the fact that you are a loser dissident with no knowledge of Iran and the real Iranians who live and work in my country.
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